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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who Killed Detroit? 
by Patrick J. Buchanan (more by this author)
Posted 11/21/2008 ET




Who killed the U.S. auto industry? 

To hear the media tell it, arrogant corporate chiefs failed to foresee the demand for small, fuel-efficient cars and made gas-guzzling road-hog SUVs no one wanted, while the clever, far-sighted Japanese, Germans and Koreans prepared and built for the future. 

I dissent. What killed Detroit was Washington, the government of the United States, politicians, journalists and muckrakers who have long harbored a deep animus against the manufacturing class that ran the smokestack industries that won World War II. 

As far back as the 1950s, an intellectual elite that produces mostly methane had its knives out for the auto industry of which Ike&#039;s treasury secretary, ex-GM chief Charles Wilson, had boasted, &quot;What&#039;s good for America is good for General Motors, and vice versa.&quot; 

&quot;Engine Charlie&quot; was relentlessly mocked, even in Al Capp&#039;s L&#039;il Abner cartoon strip, where a bloviating &quot;General Bullmoose&quot; had as his motto, &quot;What&#039;s good for Bullmoose is good for America!&quot; 

How did Big Government do in the U.S. auto industry? 

Washington imposed a minimum wage higher than the average wage in war-devastated Germany and Japan. The Feds ordered that U.S. plants be made the healthiest and safest worksites in the world, creating OSHA to see to it. It enacted civil rights laws to ensure the labor force reflected our diversity. Environmental laws came next, to ensure U.S. factories became the most pollution-free on earth.

It then clamped fuel efficiency standards on the entire U.S. car fleet. 

Next, Washington imposed a corporate tax rate of 35 percent, raking off another 15 percent of autoworkers&#039; wages in Social Security payroll taxes 

State governments imposed income and sales taxes, and local governments property taxes to subsidize services and schools. 

The United Auto Workers struck repeatedly to win the highest wages and most generous benefits on earth -- vacations, holidays, work breaks, health care, pensions -- for workers and their families, and retirees. 

Now there is nothing wrong with making U.S. plants the cleanest and safest on earth or having U.S. autoworkers the highest-paid wage earners.

That is the dream, what we all wanted for America. 

And under the 14th Amendment, GM, Ford and Chrysler had to obey the same U.S. laws and pay at the same tax rates. Outside the United States, however, there was and is no equality of standards or taxes. 

Thus when America was thrust into the Global Economy, GM and Ford had to compete with cars made overseas in factories in postwar Japan and Germany, then Korea, where health and safety standards were much lower, wages were a fraction of those paid U.S. workers, and taxes were and are often forgiven on exports to the United States. 

All three nations built &quot;export-driven&quot; economies. 

The Beetle and early Japanese imports were made in factories where wages were far beneath U.S. wages and working conditions would have gotten U.S. auto executives sent to prison. 

The competition was manifestly unfair, like forcing Secretariat to carry 100 pounds in his saddlebags in the Derby. 

Japan, China and South Korea do not believe in free trade as we understand it. To us, they are our &quot;trading partners.&quot; To them, the relationship is not like that of Evans &amp; Novak or Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers. It is not even like the Redskins and Cowboys. For the Cowboys only want to defeat the Redskins. They do not want to put their franchise out of business and end the competition -- as the Japanese did to our TV industry by dumping Sonys here until they killed it. 

While we think the Global Economy is about what is best for the consumer, they think about what is best for the nation. 

Like Alexander Hamilton, they understand that manufacturing is the key to national power. And they manipulate currencies, grant tax rebates to their exporters and thieve our technology to win. Last year, as trade expert Bill Hawkins writes, South Korea exported 700,000 cars to us, while importing 5,000 cars from us.

That&#039;s Asia&#039;s idea of free trade. 

How has this Global Economy profited or prospered America? 

In the 1950s, we made all our own toys, clothes, shoes, bikes, furniture, motorcycles, cars, cameras, telephones, TVs, etc. You name it. We made it. 

Are we better off now that these things are made by foreigners? Are we better off now that we have ceased to be self-sufficient? Are we better off now that the real wages of our workers and median income of our families no longer grow as they once did? Are we better off now that manufacturing, for the first time in U.S. history, employs fewer workers than government? 

We no longer build commercial ships. We have but one airplane company, and it outsources. China produces our computers. And if GM goes Chapter 11, America will soon be out of the auto business. 

Our politicians and pundits may not understand what is going on. Historians will have no problem explaining the decline and fall of the Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who Killed Detroit?<br />
by Patrick J. Buchanan (more by this author)<br />
Posted 11/21/2008 ET</p>
<p>Who killed the U.S. auto industry? </p>
<p>To hear the media tell it, arrogant corporate chiefs failed to foresee the demand for small, fuel-efficient cars and made gas-guzzling road-hog SUVs no one wanted, while the clever, far-sighted Japanese, Germans and Koreans prepared and built for the future. </p>
<p>I dissent. What killed Detroit was Washington, the government of the United States, politicians, journalists and muckrakers who have long harbored a deep animus against the manufacturing class that ran the smokestack industries that won World War II. </p>
<p>As far back as the 1950s, an intellectual elite that produces mostly methane had its knives out for the auto industry of which Ike&#8217;s treasury secretary, ex-GM chief Charles Wilson, had boasted, &#8220;What&#8217;s good for America is good for General Motors, and vice versa.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Engine Charlie&#8221; was relentlessly mocked, even in Al Capp&#8217;s L&#8217;il Abner cartoon strip, where a bloviating &#8220;General Bullmoose&#8221; had as his motto, &#8220;What&#8217;s good for Bullmoose is good for America!&#8221; </p>
<p>How did Big Government do in the U.S. auto industry? </p>
<p>Washington imposed a minimum wage higher than the average wage in war-devastated Germany and Japan. The Feds ordered that U.S. plants be made the healthiest and safest worksites in the world, creating OSHA to see to it. It enacted civil rights laws to ensure the labor force reflected our diversity. Environmental laws came next, to ensure U.S. factories became the most pollution-free on earth.</p>
<p>It then clamped fuel efficiency standards on the entire U.S. car fleet. </p>
<p>Next, Washington imposed a corporate tax rate of 35 percent, raking off another 15 percent of autoworkers&#8217; wages in Social Security payroll taxes </p>
<p>State governments imposed income and sales taxes, and local governments property taxes to subsidize services and schools. </p>
<p>The United Auto Workers struck repeatedly to win the highest wages and most generous benefits on earth &#8212; vacations, holidays, work breaks, health care, pensions &#8212; for workers and their families, and retirees. </p>
<p>Now there is nothing wrong with making U.S. plants the cleanest and safest on earth or having U.S. autoworkers the highest-paid wage earners.</p>
<p>That is the dream, what we all wanted for America. </p>
<p>And under the 14th Amendment, GM, Ford and Chrysler had to obey the same U.S. laws and pay at the same tax rates. Outside the United States, however, there was and is no equality of standards or taxes. </p>
<p>Thus when America was thrust into the Global Economy, GM and Ford had to compete with cars made overseas in factories in postwar Japan and Germany, then Korea, where health and safety standards were much lower, wages were a fraction of those paid U.S. workers, and taxes were and are often forgiven on exports to the United States. </p>
<p>All three nations built &#8220;export-driven&#8221; economies. </p>
<p>The Beetle and early Japanese imports were made in factories where wages were far beneath U.S. wages and working conditions would have gotten U.S. auto executives sent to prison. </p>
<p>The competition was manifestly unfair, like forcing Secretariat to carry 100 pounds in his saddlebags in the Derby. </p>
<p>Japan, China and South Korea do not believe in free trade as we understand it. To us, they are our &#8220;trading partners.&#8221; To them, the relationship is not like that of Evans &amp; Novak or Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers. It is not even like the Redskins and Cowboys. For the Cowboys only want to defeat the Redskins. They do not want to put their franchise out of business and end the competition &#8212; as the Japanese did to our TV industry by dumping Sonys here until they killed it. </p>
<p>While we think the Global Economy is about what is best for the consumer, they think about what is best for the nation. </p>
<p>Like Alexander Hamilton, they understand that manufacturing is the key to national power. And they manipulate currencies, grant tax rebates to their exporters and thieve our technology to win. Last year, as trade expert Bill Hawkins writes, South Korea exported 700,000 cars to us, while importing 5,000 cars from us.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s Asia&#8217;s idea of free trade. </p>
<p>How has this Global Economy profited or prospered America? </p>
<p>In the 1950s, we made all our own toys, clothes, shoes, bikes, furniture, motorcycles, cars, cameras, telephones, TVs, etc. You name it. We made it. </p>
<p>Are we better off now that these things are made by foreigners? Are we better off now that we have ceased to be self-sufficient? Are we better off now that the real wages of our workers and median income of our families no longer grow as they once did? Are we better off now that manufacturing, for the first time in U.S. history, employs fewer workers than government? </p>
<p>We no longer build commercial ships. We have but one airplane company, and it outsources. China produces our computers. And if GM goes Chapter 11, America will soon be out of the auto business. </p>
<p>Our politicians and pundits may not understand what is going on. Historians will have no problem explaining the decline and fall of the Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheryl-I continue to be amazed that the media injects their bias into the variuos subjects that are presented.  There is so much mis-conception about the Domestic Auto Industry and rather than bring people on your program who can &quot;clear up the myths&quot; there seems to be a concerted effort to keep the correct data hidden.  If a person who is an expert is making a point, why would you interupt them and inject your own personal bias.  And you are not alone in this practice.  Could this be why we as consumers have not confidence in the media?  This Domestic Auto LOAN has nothing to do with corporate jets.  (Companies have to file with the SEC how their Senior Officers will be kept safe and secure for sake of the company -look at the SEC filings of many large companies and you will be enlightened)  It has everything to do with not having a 21st Century USA Manufacturing Strategy.  None of the news reports provides information about the fact that USA STATE Governments have $$$ incentivised foreign manufacturers to come to their state.  None of you ever share that Foreign Auto makers are subsidized by their government in the form of protectionism, they pay for the employe health care, employe pensions, have lower corporate taxes,  pay for R &amp; D, and are partly owned by the home Country.  How do the Big 3 compete when there is not a level playing field?  What is wrong here?  It seems like the media is helping our Government drive the middle class out of this country.  I am so fed up with the negative information about the auto industry.  How do you all sleep at night?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheryl-I continue to be amazed that the media injects their bias into the variuos subjects that are presented.  There is so much mis-conception about the Domestic Auto Industry and rather than bring people on your program who can &#8220;clear up the myths&#8221; there seems to be a concerted effort to keep the correct data hidden.  If a person who is an expert is making a point, why would you interupt them and inject your own personal bias.  And you are not alone in this practice.  Could this be why we as consumers have not confidence in the media?  This Domestic Auto LOAN has nothing to do with corporate jets.  (Companies have to file with the SEC how their Senior Officers will be kept safe and secure for sake of the company -look at the SEC filings of many large companies and you will be enlightened)  It has everything to do with not having a 21st Century USA Manufacturing Strategy.  None of the news reports provides information about the fact that USA STATE Governments have $$$ incentivised foreign manufacturers to come to their state.  None of you ever share that Foreign Auto makers are subsidized by their government in the form of protectionism, they pay for the employe health care, employe pensions, have lower corporate taxes,  pay for R &amp; D, and are partly owned by the home Country.  How do the Big 3 compete when there is not a level playing field?  What is wrong here?  It seems like the media is helping our Government drive the middle class out of this country.  I am so fed up with the negative information about the auto industry.  How do you all sleep at night?</p>
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		<title>By: randy anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>randy anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a fellow NAU grad and old friend, its great to see Cheryl making huge strides in bringing the full economic story to life.  My personal feeling are that the auto industry needs what the airlines needed a few years back, a few hard bankruptcies.  Unions have strong armed too many big businesses into worthless bureaucracies.  The lean, mean and sometime heartless prevail in the US economy. Natures law plays out in business as well as on the Serangetti, the weak and old have to fail off in order for the herd to flourish and survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a fellow NAU grad and old friend, its great to see Cheryl making huge strides in bringing the full economic story to life.  My personal feeling are that the auto industry needs what the airlines needed a few years back, a few hard bankruptcies.  Unions have strong armed too many big businesses into worthless bureaucracies.  The lean, mean and sometime heartless prevail in the US economy. Natures law plays out in business as well as on the Serangetti, the weak and old have to fail off in order for the herd to flourish and survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Prince Handley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prince Handley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was the professor who profiled the Cost Comparison [Hourly Wages Big 3 vs. Japanese Transplants] from Kettering University (Flint, MI)? If so,you might want to contact him as he will have some VITAL information for you that you can NOT obtain elsewhere. However, some items may be &quot;Confidential&quot; and considered by him (because of position) to be uncharted waters.

Prince Handley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was the professor who profiled the Cost Comparison [Hourly Wages Big 3 vs. Japanese Transplants] from Kettering University (Flint, MI)? If so,you might want to contact him as he will have some VITAL information for you that you can NOT obtain elsewhere. However, some items may be &#8220;Confidential&#8221; and considered by him (because of position) to be uncharted waters.</p>
<p>Prince Handley</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Little</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly the business model has been broken for some time and current circumstances have brought that fact to the fore front.  Just as the other broken business models were expended from the marketplace, as in the case of 40+ steel companies going chapter 11, so too should this one.  Only then can some entity stronger arise from the ashes just as was the case in the steel industy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly the business model has been broken for some time and current circumstances have brought that fact to the fore front.  Just as the other broken business models were expended from the marketplace, as in the case of 40+ steel companies going chapter 11, so too should this one.  Only then can some entity stronger arise from the ashes just as was the case in the steel industy.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is crazy banks keep getting and getting without giving anything in return. WHY can Buffet get a 10% return on his 5 bil to Goldman and we taxpayers are getting NOTHING for our 10 bil in GS???????? or 150 bil in AIG etc etc etc????? 

Like there&#039;s bonuses for all these executives, there should also be penalties. A CEO of a failed company isn&#039;t worth millions of dollars a year PERIOD. The problem is all the guys sitting on the board hope that they&#039;ll be the next CEO COO or whatever C so they approve millions without blinking their eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is crazy banks keep getting and getting without giving anything in return. WHY can Buffet get a 10% return on his 5 bil to Goldman and we taxpayers are getting NOTHING for our 10 bil in GS???????? or 150 bil in AIG etc etc etc????? </p>
<p>Like there&#8217;s bonuses for all these executives, there should also be penalties. A CEO of a failed company isn&#8217;t worth millions of dollars a year PERIOD. The problem is all the guys sitting on the board hope that they&#8217;ll be the next CEO COO or whatever C so they approve millions without blinking their eye.</p>
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		<title>By: Authentic Connecticut Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Authentic Connecticut Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;&quot;Toyota has a reputation of building quality and reliable products. Talk to any mechanic, talk to anyone who has owned them. Toyota built that reputation over building reliable vehicles over years, and they have become the world’s largest automaker.&quot;
&lt;/b&gt;
They are not the biggest automaker; General Motors retains that title.

&lt;B&gt;The press is doing a poor job reporting too.&lt;/b&gt;
The ethics at Toyota isn&#039;t what you might expect.

&lt;b&gt;Last year Toyota recalled more vehicles than they built;&lt;/b&gt; and they lost a class action suit regarding 8.6 million engines that had *failed* while the vehicles were under warranty in most cases.

Right now Toyota is in the middle of buying back 2001 Tundra&#039;s due to the severe rust problem which renders the unit&lt;b&gt; &lt;i&gt;unfit for the road.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

They&#039;ve done a masterful job keeping all of the above quiet haven&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;Toyota has a reputation of building quality and reliable products. Talk to any mechanic, talk to anyone who has owned them. Toyota built that reputation over building reliable vehicles over years, and they have become the world’s largest automaker.&#8221;<br />
</b><br />
They are not the biggest automaker; General Motors retains that title.</p>
<p><b>The press is doing a poor job reporting too.</b><br />
The ethics at Toyota isn&#8217;t what you might expect.</p>
<p><b>Last year Toyota recalled more vehicles than they built;</b> and they lost a class action suit regarding 8.6 million engines that had *failed* while the vehicles were under warranty in most cases.</p>
<p>Right now Toyota is in the middle of buying back 2001 Tundra&#8217;s due to the severe rust problem which renders the unit<b> <i>unfit for the road.</i></b></p>
<p>They&#8217;ve done a masterful job keeping all of the above quiet haven&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Authentic Connecticut Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Authentic Connecticut Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Other Plan to Save Detroit
It looks like the folks in DC are inclined to give the stimulus package another try.
&lt;b&gt;Meanwhile, the Democrats owe too much to the unions not to save the auto industry.&lt;/b&gt;
 
&lt;b&gt;Let&#039;s combine the two give the economy a boost and save a few million jobs all at once!&lt;/b&gt; 
Instead of shipping cases of cash off to car makers or sending us all another check;  
Send out a voucher (for say $1,000) good for the purchase of a motor vehicle, according to the percentage of the vehicle that&#039;s produced domestically. (Civic = 70%, Ford Explorer=80%, etc.) 
Those not interested in a new car could sell (or give away) their vouchers (EBay would be loaded with them in no time flat); those who wish to buy a car could use as many as they obtain, up to the full MSRP of the vehicle. 
This would bail out the car industry without giving them a dime directly.  Furthermore, it would reduce the overall age of the nation’s cars,&lt;b&gt; increasing overall fuel economy &amp; decreasing pollution!&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;
Strengthen the dollar&lt;/b&gt;
Since vehicles with a higher domestic content would be moving better, this would reduce our imports, strengthening our dollar which would in turn further reduce what we pay for anything imported ...like gas. 
&lt;b&gt;Jobs &lt;/b&gt;
Instead of simply saving relatively few jobs, this would cause such a run that it would create some; and instead of merely propping up the big 3, it would put 1000&#039;s of suppliers back to scheduling overtime. &lt;b&gt;
Pays for itself!&lt;/b&gt;

Since money turns over 5 times, and the vouchers are only good for the domestic content of the vehicle, every dime would be spent in the United States creating taxable income.
What is the income tax on 65,000 anyway? &lt;i&gt;(20K manufacturing cost = $13,500 W-2 income x 5 = $65,000)&lt;/i&gt;  
I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll agree that this makes more sense than simply sending out checks; many of which will be used to buy new flat screen TV&#039;s usually made in Malaysia or some such place.

-Doug Hageman
 Marion, CT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Other Plan to Save Detroit<br />
It looks like the folks in DC are inclined to give the stimulus package another try.<br />
<b>Meanwhile, the Democrats owe too much to the unions not to save the auto industry.</b></p>
<p><b>Let&#8217;s combine the two give the economy a boost and save a few million jobs all at once!</b><br />
Instead of shipping cases of cash off to car makers or sending us all another check;<br />
Send out a voucher (for say $1,000) good for the purchase of a motor vehicle, according to the percentage of the vehicle that&#8217;s produced domestically. (Civic = 70%, Ford Explorer=80%, etc.)<br />
Those not interested in a new car could sell (or give away) their vouchers (EBay would be loaded with them in no time flat); those who wish to buy a car could use as many as they obtain, up to the full MSRP of the vehicle.<br />
This would bail out the car industry without giving them a dime directly.  Furthermore, it would reduce the overall age of the nation’s cars,<b> increasing overall fuel economy &amp; decreasing pollution!</b> <b><br />
Strengthen the dollar</b><br />
Since vehicles with a higher domestic content would be moving better, this would reduce our imports, strengthening our dollar which would in turn further reduce what we pay for anything imported &#8230;like gas.<br />
<b>Jobs </b><br />
Instead of simply saving relatively few jobs, this would cause such a run that it would create some; and instead of merely propping up the big 3, it would put 1000&#8217;s of suppliers back to scheduling overtime. <b><br />
Pays for itself!</b></p>
<p>Since money turns over 5 times, and the vouchers are only good for the domestic content of the vehicle, every dime would be spent in the United States creating taxable income.<br />
What is the income tax on 65,000 anyway? <i>(20K manufacturing cost = $13,500 W-2 income x 5 = $65,000)</i><br />
I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll agree that this makes more sense than simply sending out checks; many of which will be used to buy new flat screen TV&#8217;s usually made in Malaysia or some such place.</p>
<p>-Doug Hageman<br />
 Marion, CT</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living in the Detroit area and recently laid off I don&#039;t agree with the bailout. I am in the Logistics side of the auto industry and at one point there were 100 trucking companys closing their door weekly. I didn&#039;t see anyone come to their rescue. I feel if a Business can&#039;t not make ends meet they need to close the doors. I also feel the union contracts they have are to much. When the Big 3 CEOs where in Washington what was the union President there for. I know to make sure they still get their money. NO BAIL OUT let them file Chapter 11 and reorginize without all the added union cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living in the Detroit area and recently laid off I don&#8217;t agree with the bailout. I am in the Logistics side of the auto industry and at one point there were 100 trucking companys closing their door weekly. I didn&#8217;t see anyone come to their rescue. I feel if a Business can&#8217;t not make ends meet they need to close the doors. I also feel the union contracts they have are to much. When the Big 3 CEOs where in Washington what was the union President there for. I know to make sure they still get their money. NO BAIL OUT let them file Chapter 11 and reorginize without all the added union cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Fletcher Phelan</title>
		<link>http://casone.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/11/19/auto-bailout-both-sides-of-the-aisle/comment-page-1/#comment-2067</link>
		<dc:creator>Fletcher Phelan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Members of Congress and the media worry about trivialities, such as corp jets and corp exec salaries, and they seem incapable of seeing the big picture.  The Big Three don&#039;t want to reveal their secret future plans to their competitors, but silly members of congress don&#039;t understand that.  We re-elected the wrong people.  Future hearings should be behind closed doors--individually by company.  Limiting corp jet use and salaries, again, is unimportant; we must determine the long-range capabilities of each company&#039;s plans.  Congress should also tell the TRUTH; closing the big three will not destroy 3 million jobs, because other auto companies will survive, and will buy goods from suppliers.  So congress should use actual estimates, not lie!  Remember, if some companies disappear, the U.S. will survive, though some unions will not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Members of Congress and the media worry about trivialities, such as corp jets and corp exec salaries, and they seem incapable of seeing the big picture.  The Big Three don&#8217;t want to reveal their secret future plans to their competitors, but silly members of congress don&#8217;t understand that.  We re-elected the wrong people.  Future hearings should be behind closed doors&#8211;individually by company.  Limiting corp jet use and salaries, again, is unimportant; we must determine the long-range capabilities of each company&#8217;s plans.  Congress should also tell the TRUTH; closing the big three will not destroy 3 million jobs, because other auto companies will survive, and will buy goods from suppliers.  So congress should use actual estimates, not lie!  Remember, if some companies disappear, the U.S. will survive, though some unions will not.</p>
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