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		<title>By: Katie,  Lancaster, PA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie,  Lancaster, PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will turn around when people have gotten their debt paid off and put a little aside.  Then they will start to replace the things that are broken, like appliances and things.  The name of the game right now for consumers is reduced your monthly outflow.  If people cut back to a level that they feel is sustainable, they will probably ease up a bit.

Alot could be done if the government encouraged people to invest in FDIC insured CDs at banks.  Then we wouldn&#039;t have to loan the banks as much, and the government wouldn&#039;t be taking on as much debt as it is through the sale of treasuries.  Why this simple step is not being pushed is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will turn around when people have gotten their debt paid off and put a little aside.  Then they will start to replace the things that are broken, like appliances and things.  The name of the game right now for consumers is reduced your monthly outflow.  If people cut back to a level that they feel is sustainable, they will probably ease up a bit.</p>
<p>Alot could be done if the government encouraged people to invest in FDIC insured CDs at banks.  Then we wouldn&#8217;t have to loan the banks as much, and the government wouldn&#8217;t be taking on as much debt as it is through the sale of treasuries.  Why this simple step is not being pushed is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If tax dollars are needed to bail out a business then the business should not be allowed to outsource to a foreign country! How many extra jobs would that create? How ludicrous is it to take American&#039;s tax money and then send all the jobs overseas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If tax dollars are needed to bail out a business then the business should not be allowed to outsource to a foreign country! How many extra jobs would that create? How ludicrous is it to take American&#8217;s tax money and then send all the jobs overseas!</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just the TIP of the iceberg.  Like always, the government OVER reacts to any crisis.  In my region, the FDIC has told all banks &quot;No more development loans and to get them OFF the books&quot;.  The banks are also shoring up their portfolios and denying loans to small businesses of all types.  No small business, no development, means no jobs now or in the future.   

The FDIC mandates are causing banks to not renew on GOOD loans and sell them for pennies on the dollar to investors waiting in the wings.  No investor, home buyer, or commercial buyer looks at land sold by developers, builders, homeowners, or businesses, but instead deals with the banks and their foreclosures.  This is a vicious cycle, because homeowners, businesses, and developers can&#039;t sell their land because they are competing with the very people who threaten foreclosure.

Something needs to be done to stop the spiral.  If nothing is done, we will see the biggest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the upper class.  I guess that is the whole point?  Not only are the big guys getting money from the government, but they are also getting it in the way of assets and payments from the middle class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just the TIP of the iceberg.  Like always, the government OVER reacts to any crisis.  In my region, the FDIC has told all banks &#8220;No more development loans and to get them OFF the books&#8221;.  The banks are also shoring up their portfolios and denying loans to small businesses of all types.  No small business, no development, means no jobs now or in the future.   </p>
<p>The FDIC mandates are causing banks to not renew on GOOD loans and sell them for pennies on the dollar to investors waiting in the wings.  No investor, home buyer, or commercial buyer looks at land sold by developers, builders, homeowners, or businesses, but instead deals with the banks and their foreclosures.  This is a vicious cycle, because homeowners, businesses, and developers can&#8217;t sell their land because they are competing with the very people who threaten foreclosure.</p>
<p>Something needs to be done to stop the spiral.  If nothing is done, we will see the biggest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the upper class.  I guess that is the whole point?  Not only are the big guys getting money from the government, but they are also getting it in the way of assets and payments from the middle class.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things to do to start up our economy. 
Live within our means and term limits for all elected officials.</description>
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Live within our means and term limits for all elected officials.</p>
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		<title>By: Ra King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ra King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fix it?  Most I know of that are lacking extra money are not buying, and the ones with money, are not buying.  Alot of talk from many I hear is that they think the Government will collapse with-in the 1st., quarter of 2009.  I think if consumers are doing anything. they are stocking up on food, and toilet paper. Alot of news is on the internet now, and people are not relying on the main stream news media to inform them or give information.  Congress had a closed door session of recent,  and that has only happened four times in U.S. history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fix it?  Most I know of that are lacking extra money are not buying, and the ones with money, are not buying.  Alot of talk from many I hear is that they think the Government will collapse with-in the 1st., quarter of 2009.  I think if consumers are doing anything. they are stocking up on food, and toilet paper. Alot of news is on the internet now, and people are not relying on the main stream news media to inform them or give information.  Congress had a closed door session of recent,  and that has only happened four times in U.S. history.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Kamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Kamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hanging your hopes on smooth talking politicians is a fools game and I am suprised at how so many surcome to the temptation.  Your only real hope is to be a contrarian in times of such instability - liquidate all your real estate holdings when all the condo flippers are running wild, hoard cash when the commodities are dropping like a rock and deflation killing capital investing (at present), and buy back into the market once the commodities market hits bottom and shows any kind of stability.

By the way:  If you think that our current economic troubles are awe inspiring, you are in for the mother of all future shocks.  Think of the housing bubble as the mid ocean disturbance.  The real Tsunami is still to come.  Now think of the present drop in oil prices as a warning the same as the huge tsunami ebb that lures the unsuspecting to the shoreline.  Forget Obama - you&#039;d best be looking for high ground...

If the future administration wants to really do something that is effective, they should, post haste, take necessary steps to stabilize commodity prices.  The housing bubble is water over the dam and the damage is already done.  Sure, the correction is painful, but the present instability of commodities combined with the spector of peak oil will drown us all if we aren&#039;t careful.

Don Kamp, Canajoharie, NY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hanging your hopes on smooth talking politicians is a fools game and I am suprised at how so many surcome to the temptation.  Your only real hope is to be a contrarian in times of such instability &#8211; liquidate all your real estate holdings when all the condo flippers are running wild, hoard cash when the commodities are dropping like a rock and deflation killing capital investing (at present), and buy back into the market once the commodities market hits bottom and shows any kind of stability.</p>
<p>By the way:  If you think that our current economic troubles are awe inspiring, you are in for the mother of all future shocks.  Think of the housing bubble as the mid ocean disturbance.  The real Tsunami is still to come.  Now think of the present drop in oil prices as a warning the same as the huge tsunami ebb that lures the unsuspecting to the shoreline.  Forget Obama &#8211; you&#8217;d best be looking for high ground&#8230;</p>
<p>If the future administration wants to really do something that is effective, they should, post haste, take necessary steps to stabilize commodity prices.  The housing bubble is water over the dam and the damage is already done.  Sure, the correction is painful, but the present instability of commodities combined with the spector of peak oil will drown us all if we aren&#8217;t careful.</p>
<p>Don Kamp, Canajoharie, NY.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ths U.S. economy has been propped up on a house of cards for the better part of 25 years at least. Sooner or later things were going to unravel. The automakers are the epitome of this ficticious economy. They manufactured junk (for the most part) because they could not afford to do things any differently. It is not that they &quot;don&#039;t know how&quot; but rather, they are bound by history they cannot afford.

In my opinion, it is the same across the entire economy. How did it get this way? The answer is simple: The Federal Government. 

Our federal government is too big and too involved in every aspect of our daily lives and economy. It is getting worse folks. 

They forge trade deals; meddle where they should not; alter the natural course of capitalism; morph what was once the American culture; legislate &quot;change&quot; when none is needed; induce fear and panic; and weaken the very fabric of society.

The only way to improve our economy is to produce. We cannot produce anything if we are competing with slaves in the third world--all the while our borders are wide open.

Borders. Language. Culture. We are losing all three. 

The deck is stacked agains the U.S. economy and Congress fumbles around as inept as always. We have successive presidents who are equally inept and completely devoid of intellectual capital. 

Read the tea leaves. The statistics are irrational and manipulated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ths U.S. economy has been propped up on a house of cards for the better part of 25 years at least. Sooner or later things were going to unravel. The automakers are the epitome of this ficticious economy. They manufactured junk (for the most part) because they could not afford to do things any differently. It is not that they &#8220;don&#8217;t know how&#8221; but rather, they are bound by history they cannot afford.</p>
<p>In my opinion, it is the same across the entire economy. How did it get this way? The answer is simple: The Federal Government. </p>
<p>Our federal government is too big and too involved in every aspect of our daily lives and economy. It is getting worse folks. </p>
<p>They forge trade deals; meddle where they should not; alter the natural course of capitalism; morph what was once the American culture; legislate &#8220;change&#8221; when none is needed; induce fear and panic; and weaken the very fabric of society.</p>
<p>The only way to improve our economy is to produce. We cannot produce anything if we are competing with slaves in the third world&#8211;all the while our borders are wide open.</p>
<p>Borders. Language. Culture. We are losing all three. </p>
<p>The deck is stacked agains the U.S. economy and Congress fumbles around as inept as always. We have successive presidents who are equally inept and completely devoid of intellectual capital. </p>
<p>Read the tea leaves. The statistics are irrational and manipulated.</p>
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		<title>By: Barney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheryl, I do not think that well-informed people expect to see a turn in the economy in the near future. We did not get into this predicament in a short time and will not get out quickly either.  When our government made cutting taxes on the people with the money the first priority and at the same time let ordinary folks fend for themselves, that set the stage for what we have now.  Our government should be concerned with keeping our country operating so that everyone has a chance to support their families with minimal help.  However, the blind mismanagement of recent years instead of competent leadership has allowed a total breakdown of our system to develop. 

It is interesting that vast sums were handed out by Paulson to several financial companies with no questions asked by the media and Congress was not deeply involved in the decisions.  Now, when industrial (working) people are in need of some help, all kinds of reasons are given to let them fail, as it was their own fault.  Obviously, the giant financials were also responsible for their problems, but the media did not call for their bankruptcies.  Our country will not turn around until we have not bigger government, but good government, which is concerned for all of our citizens, instead of just the well-connected big operators.

Our government has encouraged reckless behaviour by their own refusal to maintain an honest, sensible budget, and not keeping watch on conditions that lead to the financial nightmare we are going through. I do not believe we need to worry about raising taxes on the wealthiest five percent in the country as they have been well taken care of for some time now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheryl, I do not think that well-informed people expect to see a turn in the economy in the near future. We did not get into this predicament in a short time and will not get out quickly either.  When our government made cutting taxes on the people with the money the first priority and at the same time let ordinary folks fend for themselves, that set the stage for what we have now.  Our government should be concerned with keeping our country operating so that everyone has a chance to support their families with minimal help.  However, the blind mismanagement of recent years instead of competent leadership has allowed a total breakdown of our system to develop. </p>
<p>It is interesting that vast sums were handed out by Paulson to several financial companies with no questions asked by the media and Congress was not deeply involved in the decisions.  Now, when industrial (working) people are in need of some help, all kinds of reasons are given to let them fail, as it was their own fault.  Obviously, the giant financials were also responsible for their problems, but the media did not call for their bankruptcies.  Our country will not turn around until we have not bigger government, but good government, which is concerned for all of our citizens, instead of just the well-connected big operators.</p>
<p>Our government has encouraged reckless behaviour by their own refusal to maintain an honest, sensible budget, and not keeping watch on conditions that lead to the financial nightmare we are going through. I do not believe we need to worry about raising taxes on the wealthiest five percent in the country as they have been well taken care of for some time now.</p>
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		<title>By: B Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish Johnny Cash was still with us, I could see him making a comeback with a new bestseller.... How highs the debt Momma, 10 Trillion an rising, How highs the debt Momma....Their would be one problem, by the time the record was cut, the numbers would be in the kazillions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish Johnny Cash was still with us, I could see him making a comeback with a new bestseller&#8230;. How highs the debt Momma, 10 Trillion an rising, How highs the debt Momma&#8230;.Their would be one problem, by the time the record was cut, the numbers would be in the kazillions.</p>
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		<title>By: Stroker Ace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stroker Ace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You ask a tough question that will have many answers. None that will be correct. We are all on the same boat but we all have different types of life preservers on. I classify myself as a single white middle class person just tying to survive. I pay my bills (that continue to increase) and I see my allotted spending cash for each month getting smaller. The cost of living is still increasing but our pay is not. We are in a world wind of trouble. Luckily I still have my job but if I loose that, I am done. Gas has come down which helps but the day to day costs have increased. Our leaders of our country have forgotten the little man and what they have done to establish our country. We are the backbone. They just want to make sure they get theirs and survive at any cost. We have lost this country financially and it is all because of greed. So to answer your question, there is no answer unless they bailout us the backbone of this country. Give us the money and let us spend it to get caught up. Some of us will blow the money on idiotic things but the majority of us will get caught up and put the money back into the financial system and kick start our economy. These bailouts are only prolonging the situation and not fixing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You ask a tough question that will have many answers. None that will be correct. We are all on the same boat but we all have different types of life preservers on. I classify myself as a single white middle class person just tying to survive. I pay my bills (that continue to increase) and I see my allotted spending cash for each month getting smaller. The cost of living is still increasing but our pay is not. We are in a world wind of trouble. Luckily I still have my job but if I loose that, I am done. Gas has come down which helps but the day to day costs have increased. Our leaders of our country have forgotten the little man and what they have done to establish our country. We are the backbone. They just want to make sure they get theirs and survive at any cost. We have lost this country financially and it is all because of greed. So to answer your question, there is no answer unless they bailout us the backbone of this country. Give us the money and let us spend it to get caught up. Some of us will blow the money on idiotic things but the majority of us will get caught up and put the money back into the financial system and kick start our economy. These bailouts are only prolonging the situation and not fixing it.</p>
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