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  • December 18, 2008 05:35 PM EST by Cheryl Casone

    The Most Hated Man in New York

    That was the headline on the front page of the New York Post this week.  A picture of Bernard Madoff, and new details for the day on which charity, celebrity, or nice old couple lost money to the scheming sleazeball.  Yes, these are all just alleged acts, but remember, he admitted to it, and his sons turned him in.  He is on record as saying yes it's true, I lost their money.  That's according to court records.  Two interesting theories have come up about this I want to pass on.

    One, that there is NO WAY he could have pulled this off alone.  Whether it was his brother that knew what was going on, but either looked the other way, or was involved in the trades.  Second,there is also a strong belief that possibly his sons turned him in, even though they knew what was going on, but it was decided that Madoff is 70, and his sons are in their 40's, so they let Dad take the fall to spend the rest of his life in prison, and their young lives were spared.  Again, this are theories that New Yorkers are batting around at dinner tables in the city, and I thought it was if nothing else interesting enough to pass on.  This case is only just beginning.

    Also, if you go over to East 64th Street, it is a scene right out of a movie.  There are paparazzi everywhere, not just news crews from local and national outlets, but celebrity photographers trying to get a shot also.  The entertainment shows are represented if you can believe it, I assume because of the Steven Spielberg factor, and no doubt screenplays are already being written for a movie or made for television series at the least.

    New Yorkers are pretty hardened folks, but he really is the devil in the eyes of the residents here.  When he was shoved by a photographer, then he fought back, most everyone was rooting for the photographer.  So many people want a piece of this guy, he has security 24 hours a day, and there is security at his offices also.

    Who else was involved? We don't know yet, but we are not good reporters if we don't start asking the questions now.

    CC

Michael

Hundreds are involved in fraud. Many investors colluded with Madeoff using questionable tactics. Here's how. Investor had 100 million to invest. Investor owed 10 million in taxes. Investor erased his/her tax debt by contributing 10 million to a paper charity in Madeoff's scheme and the Investor's remaining 90 million was invested with Madeoff. Madoff took the 10 million from the charity and 'paid' the 90 million account a healthy 10% return; keeping one million for himself (handling charges). The Investor understood clearly and clearly did not care that the charity was just a utility (an instrument to use) with the 10 million existing only on the books. The investor keeps 99 million of his original 100 million which he withdraws at the appropriate time. The charity continues to exist on Madoff's books and is ready to be used by other investors. The charity never really had any money it its account. It is just a paper vehicle of which investors and Madoff used to avoid taxes. Crooked investors were in bed with Madoff from the first. What is so shameful is the unavoidable genetically encoded dichotomy. If you have the blood, you stick with the blood; but ultimately the blood will cannibalize the blood.

December 23, 2008 at 2:37 pm

Cats

If it is proven that what he's accused of actually occured, Bernard Madoff has be considered to be a person devoid of any sense of right and wrong and any morals and values foundation. What he is accused of having done is almost beyond comprehension. I cannot imagine waking up one day and finding out that my lifesavings was gone and that money I thought I had as a nest egg may have, in part, never existed.

December 23, 2008 at 1:36 pm

CHAS

What he did was illegal. So why was the government handling of our economy legal? If you all haven't noticed, the national economy is a huge Ponzi scheme. --- CHAS

December 23, 2008 at 11:24 am

JOSEPH

Your absolutely right Aida,, someone will put a CAP in his ass before long, people out there in the world get caped for a lot less in life. If someone wipes out my life savings,,,, I’m killing that person. Sure I will go to jail for the rest of my life but what the hell!!!!! If I’m in my 70’s or 80’s and someone scams all my money I have nothing to lose at that point, I’ll be dead in a few years of old age and if I’m poor at that age who will care, it’s to late to save up at that point, So I’m just saying if anyone wipes me out financially when I’m old and retired, HE’S A DEAD PERSON!!!

December 22, 2008 at 8:55 pm

Aida

Madoff is lucky that no one has bumped him off yet. There are a lot of well connected, pissed off rich people out there. It's only a matter of time before someone decides to get even with him. And he couldn't have done this by himself. Many others were involved in this, too. The auditors who were supposed to be watch dogs share equally in this blame. Everyone at his company has some degree of guilt, too. If they knew something was going on, they should have said something. You're known by the company you keep.

December 22, 2008 at 1:49 pm

Jim

When people work to make a great living and try to invest to plan for retirement and they get taken to the cleaners it is horrible. They need to take anything that family has or can have and put it towards those that were swindled. Let the boys work to pay the debt of the father. If a farmer has a bad year he borrows money for seed for the next year and if the farmer dies and the sons are the heirs they have a debt why not use the same for the sons.

December 21, 2008 at 6:04 pm

Snoop

Cheryl, you made a mistake. The title of the article actually is .......... The most hated man in America!

December 21, 2008 at 5:15 pm

GP

Here in Brazil hundreds of rich people discover being Madoff's and the SEC's victims. They naturally will keep quiet, for tax reasons... But whom they will/should blame are those incompetent Swiss bankers who provided them with "introductions"...

December 21, 2008 at 12:06 pm

Anne

Many people understand and are successful in one area of business. When they honestly succeed and would like to keep their success, in order to do so they are told to diversify in their investments to support their families and charities. They did not make money in diversified fields, they made money in specific fields they know, therefore when they invest outside their area of expertise to save their money, they need to trust someone to help them within other areas of business. That is where people loose their money or make more money. One must rely on others because they can not know all areas of investment and that's where someone can take advantage of others. It is sad to hand someone your hard earned money to protect for your future, your families future and maybe the future of their community. Shame on anyone that does not take great care with you and your investment. end.

December 21, 2008 at 9:56 am

Mick

Here is an idea offer Mr. Madoff a plea deal for the rights to his story. All proceeds from the books and movie go to a fund for the charities this guy ruined. We can scam him out of the plea deal in the end for a taste of his own medicine.

December 19, 2008 at 3:24 pm

JOSEPH

WHO CARES!!!! If rich millionires loose their money on a scam, if you have 10 million dollars and you lose 9 million to a scam YOUR STILL A MILLIONIRE!!!!! sure your less rich but your still a millionire. HELLO!!!!!!

December 19, 2008 at 12:34 pm

brian

He might be the most hated in certain circles of the elite in New York. He would be far from the most hated person for the average Joe on the street in New York. It is just another example of the media's disconnect from the rest of us. Osama Bin Laden is still the most hated man in New York.

December 19, 2008 at 9:46 am

norman

Is it possible Mr. Madoff is simply the sacrificial lamb to distract us from the other 5,000+ thieves that need to go to prison with him? I suspect so.

December 19, 2008 at 9:34 am

chuck

I watched a wonderful documentry on Madoff on CNBC a few hours ago. It went into detail about the Ponzi Scheme and how it came about. What surprised me about Madoff was his coolness. But I'm wondering how deep the Madoff rabbit hole runs? And are there other Madoffs out there who took advantage of Investors alike?

December 19, 2008 at 1:59 am

Steve

"Who else was involved?" More than a few people at the SEC. New Motto at the SEC: "No, no! We're not crooks! We're just incompetent!"

December 18, 2008 at 5:54 pm

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  • Cheryl Casone joined FOX Business Network (FBN) in September 2007 as an anchor. Prior to FBN, Casone served as a correspondent for FOX News Channel’s (FNC) business unit and was a regular guest on FNC’s Your World with Neil Cavuto. Casone brings years of experience covering finance, business, and consumer news to FBN.

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